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<terrapinn> okokok
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<Nina> Neptho iz luvin this
<terrapinn> nina, are you logging?
<Dossy> i think pacman is stealing IP connectivity from the people upstairs from him
<CrackBaby> hahaha
<RevNeptho> Texaco, I could kiss you
<LeVu> pac: same end to end
<Cyron> its worth the thrill
<Nina> no
<RevNeptho> '1/30/98 - pacman learns ethernet'
<Nina> but this is funnier an shit
<RevNeptho> God I wish I had the rest logged
<Texaco> that would raise issues i'd rather not deal with
<LeVu> dont kiss a taco, thats my job!
<RevNeptho> dossy, please send me
<Texaco> so /lastlog it
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<RevNeptho> Levu: HAHAHA
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<tcsetattr> all right..
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<tcsetattr> actually... scratch that
<tcsetattr> I split my vi screens a lot
<tcsetattr> hey, Nepchoad. fix my ethernet setup for me
<tcsetattr> you find something funny, Nep?
<tcsetattr> Nep: I just plugged it in, and tried to use it.
<tcsetattr> silly me
<tcsetattr> the actual problem is probably the fact that the other end is running windoze
<tcsetattr> but I'm trying to eliminate the other possible explanations..
<tcsetattr> but still..
<tcsetattr> I tried booting a redsplat install disk on the windoze box, to see how far it could get
<tcsetattr> and it didn't seem to get anywhere
<tcsetattr> somehow, the redsplat install disk asked me for an IP address
<tcsetattr> and a gateway
<tcsetattr> and used this information
<tcsetattr> but when I went to tty2 with the shell on it
<tcsetattr> I could not find ifconfig ANYWHERE on the system
<tcsetattr> how the hell did it do that without ifconfig? did they hardcode some ioctls into the installer?
<tcsetattr> yeah, I did find that
<tcsetattr> 00:09:52.208646 arp who-has vir.cqc.com tell londo.cqc.com
<tcsetattr> those things are still going...
<tcsetattr> blink!
<tcsetattr> 00:12:39.838646 arp who-has vir.cqc.com tell vir.cqc.com
<tcsetattr> hey! that one is DIFFERENT!
<tcsetattr> now if I only knew what it meant
<tcsetattr> all right
<tcsetattr> I can see my box making arp requests
<tcsetattr> and I saw one come from the windoze box
<tcsetattr> but I don't see any replies
<tcsetattr> what has to be done to get somebody to REPLY to an arp
<tcsetattr> spuug, but HOW DO I MAKE IT RESPOND?
<tcsetattr> the requests are happening already! nobody is responding! that's the problem!
<tcsetattr> all right! arpd
<tcsetattr> where do I get that?
<tcsetattr> I don't know, Nep :)
<tcsetattr> I barely understand what arp is!
<tcsetattr> nobody has ever told me about these requirements.
<tcsetattr> this is not mentioned in any documentation I have found
<tcsetattr> Where is the arp documentation goddammit
<tcsetattr> I have read arp(8)
<tcsetattr> and it's not helping me
<tcsetattr> I say arp -a
<tcsetattr> and it just lists a bunch of zeros
<tcsetattr> I do not know, Nep!
<tcsetattr> I just installed the driver and it started "arp"ing!
<tcsetattr> I didn't ask it to do this, and I don't know how to turn it off
<tcsetattr> and I don't know what the effect of turning it off would be
<tcsetattr> all right, you tell me how to turn off "arp" then
<tcsetattr> hmm
<tcsetattr> I am not trying to install any fucking daemons!
<tcsetattr> I am trying to set up a little network between my box and a fucking windoze box
<tcsetattr> I just want to be able to fucking ping the windoze box
<tcsetattr> after ping works, I'll know how to do the rest
<tcsetattr> it's connected by a pink cable with giant telephone connectors on the ends
<tcsetattr> with NE2000 clone ethernet cards
<tcsetattr> what's a hub?
<tcsetattr> dammit, I hate dealing with hardware. it's so confusing
<tcsetattr> I read the entire ethernet howto already
<tcsetattr> it does not tell you ANYTHING after ifconfig
<tcsetattr> I READ IT
<tcsetattr> I MEMORIZED IT
<tcsetattr> IT IS NOT USEFUL
<tcsetattr> Dossy, I've done everything in the ethernet howto already
<tcsetattr> I am passed that part
<tcsetattr> PLIP? That's not what I'm doing
<tcsetattr> here's the thing, Nep
<tcsetattr> I don't know what's broken!
<tcsetattr> I suspect that the linux side is all correctly configured and everything
<tcsetattr> but I have no way of proving that
<tcsetattr> how can I know for sure whether it's working?
<tcsetattr> I told you
<tcsetattr> a pink cable
<tcsetattr> with giant telephone connectors on the end
<tcsetattr> "pink" is the best description I can give :)
<tcsetattr> it does have some writing on it
<tcsetattr> it has like, a novel written on the side of it
<tcsetattr> but among all those words is "Category 5" is that what you're looking for?
<tcsetattr> Nep, you're not helping me dammit
<tcsetattr> dammit.
<tcsetattr> I can't do that
<tcsetattr> it's past midnight, I can't go get another cable now
<tcsetattr> and I think the cable is working
<tcsetattr> because I got a specific arp request that's different from all the others when the windoze box rebooted
<tcsetattr> I can't be sure
<tcsetattr> because I don't have a clue how arp works
<tcsetattr> but I'm making some educated guesses
<tcsetattr> it's on 10.0.0.1
<tcsetattr> and the windoze box is on 10.0.0.2
<tcsetattr> I did that part already, Nepchoad
<tcsetattr> how many fucking kinds of cable are there
<tcsetattr> I'm telling you
<tcsetattr> it's pink
<tcsetattr> and it's got giant telephone connectors on it
<tcsetattr> and that's all I know
<tcsetattr> have you ever seen a pink cable before? this thing is like... really bright pink. Looks like a unique identification to me :-P
<tcsetattr> volt-ohm meter? I'm not that kind of geek
<tcsetattr> I'm a _unix_ hacker
<tcsetattr> unix doesn't have colored cables or giant telephone jacks
<tcsetattr> it is not hardware
<tcsetattr> I don't like hardware
<tcsetattr> I'm gonna go LART the windoze box some
<tcsetattr> there..
<tcsetattr> I just rebooted the windoze box
<tcsetattr> and at the exact same time, I got another one of these:
<tcsetattr> 00:37:06.608646 arp who-has vir.cqc.com tell vir.cqc.com
<tcsetattr> that looks wrong
<tcsetattr> does it seem wrong to anyone else that the windoze box is asking for its _own_ address?
<tcsetattr> is that normal?
<tcsetattr> I see white, white, orange, and green
<tcsetattr> I think I turned off DHCP
<tcsetattr> on the other side? you mean I have to compare the order of the colors on the linux box end against the order of the colors on the windoze end?
<tcsetattr> do you realize that this wire is running through a hole in the floor
<tcsetattr> that is not going to be easy to get those ends back together again
<tcsetattr> levu, I'm trying to get a linux box and a windoze box to talk via ethernet
<tcsetattr> here's a problem, though Nep
<tcsetattr> one of them plugs in upside down
<tcsetattr> the other one plugs in right-side-up
<tcsetattr> should I take that into account?
<tcsetattr> so which way should I hold the end thingy when I note the color order?
<tcsetattr> all right
* tcsetattr runs upstairs to look at the other end
<tcsetattr> all right..
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<Cyron> hehe
<RevNeptho> Heh
<RevNeptho> Do the colors match up
<tcsetattr> one of them is white,orange,white,(UNUSED SPACE),green
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<tcsetattr> the other one is
<RevNeptho> or are they reversed?
<tcsetattr> white,green,white,(UNUSED SPACE), orange
<Dossy> 2nd and 3rd are switched
<terrapinn> what the hell kind of cable is that
<tcsetattr> so the green and orange are swapped
<RevNeptho> What the hell is that?
<terrapinn> hmmm
<Dossy> WHAT THE HELL
<Nina> is it a rj45?
<terrapinn> null ethernet?
<Texaco> no wonder it doesn't work...
<RevNeptho> 6+2 switched?
<Dossy> and it says "cat-5" on it?
<Texaco> ;)
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<SuperTaz> look
<vorbau> patch cable
<RevNeptho> Dossy: Anyone can crimp a cable
<terrapinn> for going card<->card w/o hub?
<Cyron> well he doesn't realize that the white has a color stripe on it...
<tcsetattr> it has like the complete works of shakespeare printed on the side of it
<SuperTaz> 1-3 2-6 is ethernet...PERIOD
<RevNeptho> <sigh> aye
<terrapinn> this is too funny
<SuperTaz> you roll 1-3 and 2-6 for a peer-to-peer cable
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* Nina send Pacman the book "Networks, Everything you wanted to Know" with the page w/ cable's pigeared
<RevNeptho> Jesus pacman, even pizzaboy got ya beat.
<tcsetattr> my god
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<tcsetattr> I don't want to know about the cable!
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<CrackBaby> ahahaha
<Cyron> its full of stars?
<terrapinn> heh
<spuug> Cyron: yeah, white w/green stripe, and white w/orange stripe.
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<RevNeptho> yes pacman, much of internet is still hardware
<tcsetattr> I asked the hardware guy to do the cable right
<RevNeptho> sorry, but its still hardware
<tcsetattr> if he didn't do it right, it ain't my fault
<SuperTaz> and you always want 1&3 and 2&6 on the same pairs
<RevNeptho> if you dont know hardware, ya cant play in the big leagues
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<Cyron> thats funny i always used orange and blue...
<SuperTaz> prevents NEXT
<RevNeptho> install winsock and be happy
<SuperTaz> (Near-end cross talk)
<Cyron> but it really doesn't matter...
<terrapinn> i never trust the hardware guy
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* RevNeptho ROTFL.
<spuug> Cyron: ok, s/green/blue/
<Texaco> i never trust any kind of service guy
<Nina> the hardware guy was on crack
<RevNeptho> pacman, for an 'I DONT NEED ANYBODY' type of guy...
<terrapinn> he prolly got his cable-making certificate from ITT
<RevNeptho> Yer pretty damn fucked of yer own accord
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<Dossy> whahahaha
<RevNeptho> terr: WAHAHAHA
<Dossy> ITT
<Dossy> woop
<RevNeptho> ITT
<SuperTaz> I used to make these damned cables daily
<RevNeptho> DeVry
* Dossy rolls over
<Texaco> my car has been screwed one too many times by a mechanic
<RevNeptho> ITT TECHNICAL INSTITUTE
<terrapinn> "I got tired of working at Burger King so I called ITT tech!"
<RevNeptho> ITTTI (woop)
<Cyron> I hate making those cables...
<Texaco> for me to trust anyone without a diploma of sorts
<tcsetattr> it's not my fscking fault if the cable doesn't work :)
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<terrapinn> "Now I have an in-demand job making cables for large corporations!"
<Texaco> is this a hardware or software problem, anyway?
<SuperTaz> ok...bbl :)
<tcsetattr> that's the exact question I want to have answered, Texaco
<SuperTaz> sleep
<terrapinn> tc: do you have access to the cable-making supplies
<Texaco> all you need is a crimper and some knee pads!
<Dossy> pacman, just give up. you weren't meant to use ethernet.
<tcsetattr> I want to know how to run a diagnostic on the cable
<Texaco> it would be easier to get another patch cord
<Dossy> diagnostic on the cable?  spend $200 on a link tester
<terrapinn> pacman: with a multimeter.
<Figz> terrapinn, no crimper
<tcsetattr> well, fsck.
<Cyron> tcset: would you like a Nice little Color chart of 10Base-T cabling strait thru & crossover?
<Figz> although he can cut the cable in the middle and crossover and twist back together.
<tcsetattr> we're gonna have to harass the hardware guy tomorrow
<Cyron> hehe
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<Dossy> wait, pacman, are there only 4 wires in your cable, and not 8?
<Figz> I dunno, I mentioned this about, oh, 30 minutes ago..
<tcsetattr> there are more wires in there
<terrapinn> you dont need 8 wires
<Texaco> oh boy
<tcsetattr> but some of them have been cut
<Cyron> technically you don't need 8
<tcsetattr> only 4 wires actually make it all the way to the end
<terrapinn> hahaha texaco
<Cyron> but it is nice to have all of them...
<Dossy> technically you don't, but it's not cat5 without 8, right?
<Texaco> correct
<Dossy> cat3 is 4 wires, isn't it?
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<terrapinn> hmm
* Dossy shrugs, cat5 is nice cuz I can use it for serial cabling too
<tcsetattr> well, it might have had 8 wires in it originally
<Figz> aren't the others usefull for maintaining an equal ground plane or something?
<tcsetattr> but some of them are cut off
<Figz> dossy, YEA
<Dossy> nothing beats making a $5 100' serial cable
<Cyron> No the cat means Twisted and sheilded
<terrapinn> dossy: yeah, those rule
<Figz> dossy, I have those little connectors :)
<Cyron> er cat5
<Dossy> Figz: where did you get your MOD-TAP connectors from?
<terrapinn> i need to buy a cable-end crimper
<Figz> rs232 nine pin -> rj45
* Dossy only has 4 of them
<Dossy> rs-232 25-pin -> RJ-45
<spuug> Figz: yes, the whites are the return for the coloureds.
<tcsetattr> the problem with harrassing the hardware guy is that I am getting these arp logs which appear to be originating from the windoze box
<Figz> dossy, RP electronics, they have all sorts of junk
<tcsetattr> which would seem to mean the cable works
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* Dossy needs to get more of the rj-45 to rs-232 (both 25 and 9 pin) connectors
<Dossy> figz: got a URL?
<Figz> Dossy, they are local
<Cyron> tcse: you might be getting talking one way but not the other...
<terrapinn> time for some people here to go to Fry's
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<Figz> and small, mostly sell used stuff
<Dossy> Figz: oh.  rats.
<tcsetattr> maybe
<Cyron> because your only getting half of the connection...
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<Texaco> i'm screwed.  i need about 20 more megs of Disk space
<Cyron> hey upper
<Figz> but you go in and ask for varisotors, or themistors, or photdarlingtons, and they go to some obscure drawer, and you pick it out
<terrapinn> my floppy drive is dead
<terrapinn> check this out
<Figz> they totally blow radio shack away
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<Dossy> figz: lucky you
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<terrapinn> [root@lonestar chris]# fdformat /dev/fd0H1440
<terrapinn> Double-sided, 80 tracks, 18 sec/track. Total capacity 1440 kB.
<terrapinn> Formatting ...
<terrapinn> ioctl(FDFMTBEG): Operation not supported by device
<Dossy> woop
<Texaco> who would even consider rat shack?
<terrapinn> wtf is that?
<Dossy> www.mod-tap.com!!!!
* Dossy hops up and down
<Texaco> maybe its not double density?
<Figz> dossy, heh
<argon> my fromitz board seems to be cracked, can I get a new one?
<Dossy> www.mod-tap.inter.net
<terrapinn> it's the windows NT install disk im formatting
<Dossy> www.mod-tap.com.au
<terrapinn> it's HD
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<Dossy> damn, they've registered every form of mod-tap
<terrapinn> the drive light isn't even coming on
<Texaco> heh
<tcsetattr> # arp -a
<tcsetattr> Address                 HW type         HW address              Flags   Mask
<tcsetattr> 10.0.0.2                10Mbps Ethernet 00:00:00:00:00:00               *
<Texaco> i ruined some floppies recently
<tcsetattr> j00 d0rk!
<terrapinn> like i said, pc's fucking suck
<Texaco> by reversing the IDE ribbon inside
<Texaco> ouch, thats your enet addr?
<Figz> Dossy, I especially like that I can convert to a null cable just by changing one of the converters.
<terrapinn> it's prolly my kernel
<Figz> the one with the big N scribbled on it
<CrackBaby> That HW address is wrong
<Texaco> okay, do you have an ethernet adapter in your pc? ;)
<terrapinn> but i can't ftp a new kernel because my phone line is noisy!
<tcsetattr> hm
<terrapinn> i'm stuck until @Home gets installed!
<Texaco> heh red-striped wire goes on pin 1 :)
<tcsetattr> if the cable is one-way broken, I should be able to observe different symptoms by reversing it
<Cyron> ah cable modem...
<terrapinn> anyone in the bay area with a zip drive and a fast connection?
<tcsetattr> that'll be a pain to do
<Texaco> i would suspect a software problem before a hardware one
<terrapinn> his cable is funky
<terrapinn> i suspect hardware
<Texaco> i suspect everyone
<Dossy> damnit
<Dossy> www.mod-tap.com isn't what I want
<terrapinn> someone let me bum your bandwidth
<Dossy> grr
<terrapinn> and your zip drive
<Texaco> i gots lots of bandwidth
<Texaco> but i'm 3000 miles away
<terrapinn> heh
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<terrapinn> hmmm
<terrapinn> maybe there is a college around here with a computer lab?
<antmo> hi.
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<Texaco> your company hardware poor, or something?
<Texaco> I give up.  No ghostscript 5.10 for me.
<CrackBaby> Grr.  I can't make my LS120 mount.
<terrapinn> dossy, i didn't see 'finger' on that site you gave me
<Figz> Anyone have a Fluke model 8X series?
<Figz> I've been considering if I have the money.
<Texaco> anybody want to sell me a 250MB IDE Hard Drive?
<terrapinn> argh
<terrapinn> this sucks
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<Cyron> brb phone bill...
<tcsetattr> well fuck...
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<tcsetattr> I went to unplug the cable from the windoze box and the end thingy fell off the wire
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<terrapinn> rofl
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<inspector> how do ya find memory locations in AIX???
<Texaco> fun fun
<Figz> pacman, bahah
<CrackBaby> haha
<terrapinn> poot pacman
<Figz> he should have backfilled with the old hot-melt glue
<Texaco> squeeze all the wires together an smell the hole in the floor
[E/X] The time is now 10:00pm.
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<Nina> your borked
<Figz> completely and utterly borked
<Dossy> hahaha
<Figz> I think pacman knows why a proper admin makes his own cables tho.
<Dossy> pacman, cut and restrip, and crimp a new connector on
* Dossy nods
<Figz> dossy, he's no where near a crimper
<Dossy> never trust some luser to make your cables
<Dossy> figz: I've used the screwdriver on my swiss-army knife as a crimper
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<argon> Jan 31 00:59:35 burgundy writed[14117]: connect from metrocon.com
<argon> Jan 31 00:59:46 burgundy fingerd[14118]: connect from metrocon.com
* Dossy is a REAL hacker
<argon> hmm
<Figz> dossy, I've done that too
<Dossy> "writed"?
<Figz> but I've never been satisfied with the results
<Dossy> write foo@host?
<argon> dossy: yeah
<Dossy> Figz: in a pinch, it works fine
<tcsetattr> I am about as likely to make my own cables as I am to make my own CPU with knives and bear skins
<terrapinn> hahaha
<tcsetattr> I don't know how this thing is supposed to work
* upper sighs
<upper> howdy
<tcsetattr> I can't even SEE the actual wires
<tcsetattr> all I can see is the colored parts
* RevNeptho rotfl
* RevNeptho is so glad log is set to 'ON'.
<Figz> pacman is far removed from the hunter gatherer type...
<spuug> pacman: don't they squeeze into knife-blades in the connectors?
<upper> beer, LOTS of beer tonight
<upper> wow
<Figz> you should get one of those magnified illuminators
* upper stumbles away from the computer
* upper &
<Figz> 4x or so, witht he large round flourescent light built in
<Evil_Ed> wait, im just now understanding
<tcsetattr> I can't even tell where the wires are supposed to go
<Texaco> Bring ogg some vegetables.  Ogg no skin bear.
<RevNeptho> spuug: Humoring him is good, but talking down to him is just evil. good man.
<Evil_Ed> pacman, when you asked for help with ethernet..you were SERIOUS?
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* Evil_Ed gigglew
<Evil_Ed> s
<Figz> even a legally blind person can crimp 24 guage wire with one of those
* Evil_Ed laughs
<RevNeptho> Ogg vegan. Og no like bear.
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<upper> thanks
<Toxemia__> can ne1 here help me install BitchX 4 redhat linux 5.0 i already untared it and i dont know what 2 do from their
<CrackBaby> np
<upper> bye
<RevNeptho> Ogg kill beges. veges not bite.
<CrackBaby> Later upper
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<tcsetattr> I don't get it
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<RevNeptho> Toxema: tcsetattr will if you help him setup ethernet.
<tcsetattr> there's this plastic thingy with a clip on it
<Toxemia__> ok
<tcsetattr> but I don't see where it makes contact with the computer
<Toxemia__> i can help
*** Topic for #unix: <tcsetattr> I asked the hardware guy to do the cable right
*** Topic for #unix set by RevNeptho on Jan 30 21:45:12
*** RevNeptho has changed the topic on channel #unix to <tcsetattr> there's this plastic thingy with a clip on it
* Dossy laughs
<Evil_Ed> tcset, its like a phone jack, cripes
<RevNeptho> Dear god.
<tcsetattr> shouldn't there be like.. oh, here's something
<Evil_Ed> and you blast US for being clueless at times? :)
<RevNeptho> Dossy, did you ever ever ever expect pacman to sound like this?
<Texaco> well is it no longer connected to the wire?
<tcsetattr> I'm not a fucking hardware guy!
<RevNeptho> Hahah
* Figz thinks pacman is humouring us
<tcsetattr> other people make the hardware go
<RevNeptho> you dont need to be a hardware guy to know red is positive, black is negative :P
<tcsetattr> everyone is msging me "ARE YOU SERIOUS" now
<tcsetattr> yes, goddammit
<tcsetattr> my cable's end thingy fell off.
<Dossy> nep: never
<RevNeptho> Yes, pacman is this clueless. hes not faking it
<Texaco> heh that end thingy is pretty important unless you have a small soldering iron
<tcsetattr> [Evil_Ed] no, as in, whats wrong? if i can ill help
* RevNeptho rotfuckingl
<Evil_Ed> :P
<spuug> pacman: circumcision?
<Dossy> next time pacman gets all self-righteous, we can just pull up these logs and laugh
<Toxemia__> sum1 plz help, how do i run bitchx all i did so far was untar it and i dont know what 2 do next !!
<tcsetattr> Ed, the end thingy fell off!
<RevNeptho> Greg, he gave his cable a circumcision
<tcsetattr> the giant telephone jack connector
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<RevNeptho> Tc: this cable is now dead
<Evil_Ed> :P
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<tcsetattr> aww, that's not necessary
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<Figz> pacman, it sounds like you want to buy a "NULL" or "crossover" UTP ethernet cable.
<tcsetattr> no kidding
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<Toxemia__> ?
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<Evil_Ed> the end fell off? unless you have a crimper, you're hosed
<RevNeptho> Tc: Go to yer local 12 year old making $5 at office depot and ask for a crossover cable
<Toxemia__> why u kick em
<raal> hi all
<tcsetattr> if it wasn't broken before, it sure as hell is now
<argon> *inspector* yer havard ip doesn't scare me
<Figz> and not trust the hardware guy anymore :)
<tcsetattr> it is out of my hands :)
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<argon> where do these people come from?
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<tcsetattr> got to take it back to the store and tell him to fix it
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<spuug> pacman: nobody is immune from lemur status.
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<-[argon]-> yer harvard badge doesnt scare me either!
<Toxemia__> hehe
<lumpy_> hey *
<tcsetattr> but it's the middle of the night so I get to complain for a few hours first.
<Toxemia__> well i dont know how
<Toxemia__> u cant help?
<Toxemia__> plz man
<-[argon]-> But them whips n chains n leather do!
<argon> *RevNeptho* But them whips n chains n leather do!
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<raal> anyone happen to know where I can find some info on a sun i386 machines (yes I know they are old)
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<argon> neptho, I didn't want to know that
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<tcsetattr> check this out
<tcsetattr> one of these connectors has a lid on it
<tcsetattr> that covers up the inner wires
<RevNeptho> hey, yer wearing them.
<Dossy> sun i386?
<RevNeptho> pacman: arent the advances in plastics amazing?
* RevNeptho grins evilly while winking at dossy.
<RevNeptho> pacman, who do you call when the phone doesnt work?
<RevNeptho> ooh. old one, 'when doves cry'. I hate prince, but I havent heard this in like 8 years.
<RevNeptho> I remember when this was popular.
<RevNeptho> 'Purple Rain', wasnt that a movie prince made?
Host not found.
shitbox.mustelid.com has address 205.158.165.183
<terrapinn> you go, crackbaby
* Dossy laughs
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<tcsetattr/#unix> the lid is like, missing off the other one
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<spuug/#unix> rall: umm, not sun anymore, I'd expect.
<crackah0> 10 words per min is some damn fast time
<crackah0> 10 wpm is 133+ typing mang
<crackah0> j/k
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<argon/#unix> *inspector* i wanna know where ksh is in memory
<tcsetattr/#unix> all right
<raal/#unix> dossy: yep, I though I saw a page about them a while ago, just wondering if anyone knew anything about em.
<raal/#unix> spuug: huh?
<Figz/#unix> strings /dev/mem |grep ksh
<Asclus/#unix> alguem fala portuques aqui ???
<tcsetattr/#unix> I'm setting aside the cable now
<Asclus/#unix> alguem fala portuques aqui ???
<RevNeptho> 'lo
<Figz/#unix> asclus, english
<ninjaz_> I've pushed my speed up to 15wpm, but I seem to have plateaued.
<Asclus/#unix> no one speak portuguese ???
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<kaotikfnk> are there any typing programs for linux?  I have no idea how fast i type
<Figz/#unix> asclus, there's only about what
<Texaco/#unix> no such thing
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<Figz/#unix> 14 million of you?
<crackah0> ninjaz:youre kidding right?
<Figz/#unix> and 5 billion of us?
<lumpy_/#unix> fc.. ipf is happy now btw.. after i fixed my edits to netstart and all :)
<Figz/#unix> Hmm.
<ninjaz_> smirk.
<kaotikfnk/#linuxos> I typed 42 wpm about 4 years ago
<osyrus/#linuxos> I type about 72 nwp
<Figz> lumpy :) I told ya :)
<spuug> raal: Sun may have some info on their old boxes, but I kind of doubt it.
<Dossy>  /nk asclus vamonos a #porqchop
* Dossy snickers
<kaotikfnk/#linuxos> and I was 12
<ninjaz_/#linuxos> ohh baby tll me wht yor dong to mee!!
<RevNeptho> AAH!
<Figz> it needs to be turned on pre securelevel or something I think
<raal> spuug: I havnt seen any info on their page. :(
<crackah0/#linuxos> hahah
<crackah0/#linuxos> more
<crackah0/#linuxos> moire
<crackah0/#linuxos> more
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<crackah0/#linuxos> please baby
<terrapinn> raal, read the sun hardware faq
<crackah0/#linuxos> oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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<RevNeptho> scrollage
<crackah0/#linuxos> hehehehehehe
<spuug> raal: what kind of info?  like an architecture manual?
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<tcsetattr> now maybe you know why I preach standard-compliance so often
<raal> terrapinn:  Where is that located, if ya dont mind me asking?
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<Asclus> how to create an script in unix for download , what command need ??
<tcsetattr> because I know that real hardware is fragile, and hard to diagnose, and generally annoying
<terrapinn> raal, are you that netscape-impaired?
<Texaco> well one thing is for sure
<raal> spuug: I am looking at getting on, and want to know a little about it.
<Texaco> your plastic thingy is not compliant!
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<spuug> raal: you may try starting at rtfm.mit.edu
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<tcsetattr> when the phone doesn't work, I wait it out
<raal> terrapinn:  ahh no,  I was just wondering if u happened to know off hand where it was...
<tcsetattr> someone will fix it
<RevNeptho> Texaco: >;)
<tcsetattr> some.. hardware guy
<tcsetattr> but not me
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<terrapinn> raal, search for it
<raal> spuug: thanks
<terrapinn> it's not THAT hard
<RevNeptho> pacman: even if its because you accidently yanked the cord out of the wall?
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<raal> terrapinn: gee I can figure that out...
<RevNeptho> Pacman, can you do networking?
<tcsetattr> well, I have more than one phone
<RevNeptho> pacman: if you have a /32, how many useable ips do ya have?
<tcsetattr> yes, I can do networking. at the TCP level.
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<Evil_Ed> erf
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<Feanor> rev: 1
[mmpp]  You turkey-dropping!
* Ulf looks at RevNeptho with a strange look
<terrapinn> heheh rev
<RevNeptho> How can ya explain how netmasks work, when a red wire is always a red wire?
* RevNeptho licks Ulf.
<RevNeptho> Ulf: sssh.
<Feanor> rev: usually /32 =point-to-point
<Evil_Ed> thanks levu
<-[mmpp]-> Heya cocksmack
<RevNeptho> IM TALKING TO PACMAN
<tcsetattr> a red wire has nothing to do with a netmask
<RevNeptho> SHUT THE FUCK UP :P
<argon> cut the red wire and then the blue, or is it the blue and then the red... um... snip *BOOM*:
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<RevNeptho> *BOOM*
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[mmpp] vomit penis
<-[mmpp]-> penis vomit
<tcsetattr> a netmask is something I can read about in an RFC
[mmpp]  Wait, I take that back
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<RevNeptho> Ulf: send it here, if you can tell me where mine sucks, I'll critique yers
<terrapinn>  /kill lama
<RevNeptho> pacman: and what is it for?
[mmpp]  I meant "vomit-penis"
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<tcsetattr> it is not dependent on arbitrary conventions like "red wire"
<-[mmpp]-> congrats
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<RevNeptho> tc: yes it is
<spuug> argon: what movie was that?  The one with the flying toilet?  Beverly Hills Cop 2?
[mmpp] all one word
<RevNeptho> because if yer red wire is ranked
<tcsetattr> it's for routing or something
<RevNeptho> then yew got nothing
<Hilfy> spuug: that was off-the-cuff, it's probably been in a dozen movies
<RevNeptho> tc: yes.... and?
<-[mmpp]-> Heh
<spuug> Hilfy; ah...
<-[mmpp]-> yer getting intelligent
<Texaco> how arbitrary is an 8-bit byte?
<tcsetattr> and? show me the RFC which relates "red wire" to "netmask"
<terrapinn> what was that movie where they had the containers of that liquid explosive in new york?
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<RevNeptho> tc: you can code, but if you accidently unplug the box and cant figure out to check the wire, what damn good are ya?
<tcsetattr> better yet, show me the RFC which tells what to do when your giant telephone connector thing falls off your pink cable :)
[mmpp]  How's your job picking up used condoms at the chicken ranch?
<RevNeptho> if you have to beg someone to config yer network, what the hell are ya?
<RevNeptho> a windows person who can code :P
<Texaco> heh RFC 911
<tcsetattr> Nep, "the box" doesn't have to physically exist, as far as I'm concerned
<terrapinn> hahaha
<RevNeptho> tc: 'RFC 611'
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<Texaco> those are fighting words rev
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<RevNeptho> Texaco: 611 is repair
<tcsetattr> for years I used as my primary machine a machine which I have never seen
<RevNeptho> Texaco: He damn well deserves it
<tcsetattr> I don't need to see the box
<tcsetattr> I don't need to know what the hardware is
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<RevNeptho> pacman: but if yer wire to that machine is hosed
<Dossy> goddamn
<RevNeptho> you have no primary machine :P
<tcsetattr> it runs unix, and it's accessible by rlogin, that's all I need to know
<Dossy> why can't I find a website that sells those MOD-TAP connectors
<RevNeptho> tc: ok so install unix on the windows box
<Texaco> 911 is emergency
<RevNeptho> and make it work :P
<terrapinn> cough
<RevNeptho> Tex: 911 is emergency which denotes help. pacman is beyond help
<tcsetattr> wire? I don't know if there was a wire. it could have been a radio link for all I care
<spuug> 811 tells you what number you're calling from.
<tcsetattr> all I know is, I sat down at a workstation, and went "rlogin expert -l pacman"
[mmpp]  Why so quiet?  Just got back from the ranch as a customer?
<tcsetattr> and there I was!
<lumpy_> Sat Jan 31 01:16:27 EST 1998
<RevNeptho> pacman: BUT IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IT AT THE LOWEST FUCKING LEVEL, WHAT GOOD ARE YOU WHEN IT DOESNT WORK?
<tcsetattr> I didn't know where the machine was
<lumpy_> how close am i?
<-[mmpp]-> pacman (tcsetattr) is slowly admitting he knows nothing of networking
<-[mmpp]-> hes begging us for help
<terrapinn> hmmm
<-[mmpp]-> come into #unix
<-[mmpp]-> its much funnier than any of yre banter
<RevNeptho> Fri Jan 30 22:17:26 PST 1998
<spuug> I think pacman needs an 811 service.
<RevNeptho> nah
<tcsetattr> the POINT of having STANDARD PROTOCOLS is that the lowest level is COVERED UP
<haws> lump: that's the same time I have
<RevNeptho> he needs 976 numbers
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<RevNeptho> protocols dont help
[mmpp]  Doubt it
<RevNeptho> when ya cant figure out the wire is bad
<RevNeptho> :P
<Texaco> even abstraction must sometimes be unwound
<tcsetattr> if the wire is bad, it's not my problem
<RevNeptho> Texaco: dear god, I cant connect! Lets get a new machine!
<tcsetattr> it's someone else's problem.
<RevNeptho> tc: it is your problem if its yer wire
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<Texaco> only one thing to do
<tcsetattr> I'm a programmer, not an administrator
* RevNeptho hands Pacman winsock and Outlook Express.
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<tcsetattr> well, I'd prefer to not own any wires, then I'd not have any problems :)
<RevNeptho> texaco: the clue by four?
<RevNeptho> tc: yes you would
<lumpy_> yay
<lumpy_> so now my box has the right time
<lumpy_> and ipf logging
<lumpy_> so now all i need is a good window manager
* lumpy_ sighs
<RevNeptho> because when the radio link died
<tcsetattr> no I wouldn't..
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<tcsetattr> heh
<tcsetattr> I don't mean radio link
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<RevNeptho> you wouldnt be able to test it with a lightbulb and a 9v battery
<terrapinn> this machine is such a peice of shit
<terrapinn> my box used to rule
<spuug> pacman: computer stuff always has some kind of physical level.
<-[mmpp]-> give him hell
<RevNeptho> HELL!
<terrapinn> how did it turn into this?
<tcsetattr> I mean I'd rather have someone else be in charge of running the hardware that I use
<RevNeptho> mmpp can config ethernet!
<terrapinn> out, out, evil redhat linux!
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<madbombah> hi all
[mmpp]  Heheh
<RevNeptho> terra: It got old :(
<-[mmpp]-> >;)
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<terrapinn> rev: i guess so...
<tcsetattr> I don't really want to have a computer of my own
<madbombah> thanks cstone
<Texaco> heh mines doing the same thing
* spuug hands pacman a wireless ethernet node.
[mmpp]  grrrrrr
<terrapinn> no, but everything is fucked up now
<terrapinn> nothing works
<terrapinn> not even PPP networking
<Texaco> well it works still
<tcsetattr> I just want an account on a machine where some other guy has to worry about the wires
<RevNeptho> mmpp: he has a 'pink wire' with a wierd plastic thing that looks like a telephone plug on each end and one of the ends fell off
<Texaco> but is flaky on cold power up
<tcsetattr> but today, I am not in that situation
<Figz> what pacman's saying is that he needs a partner!
<RevNeptho> tc: you mean, you dont want to be a system administrator?
[mmpp]  no, I ain't sayin a word
<RevNeptho> what pacman is saying is 'gimme root but dont make me fix it when it aint broken'
<tcsetattr> no, I don't
<RevNeptho> [mmpp]  no, I ain't sayin a word
<-[mmpp]-> CHICKENSHIT!~
[mmpp]  =]
<tcsetattr> I don't wanna be root at all :)
<RevNeptho> -> *mmpp* CHICKENSHIT!
<terrapinn> i think the problem is that i don't have a decent network connection and cannot fetch the necessary tools to make this machine decent
<tcsetattr> but I'm stuck with being root here for now
<foobi-wan> I HATE MY LIFE?
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<Texaco> sure terra, blame it on the machine
<foobi-wan> THIS IS SO LAME!
<foobi-wan> blah
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<RevNeptho> foo: this is so damn fucking funny tho
<tcsetattr> and unfortunately, I've come to be in charge of this pink wire with broken end thingys that look like giant telephone jack connectors
<RevNeptho> Kev, can ya help alan with ethernet?
<tcsetattr> no, I don't need help now
<tcsetattr> the cable is broken.
<RevNeptho> pacman: you still dont get it
<RevNeptho> pacman: go to wherever
<tcsetattr> there's nothing you can do about it
<terrapinn> pacman, where is your 20?
<RevNeptho> ask for a CROSSOVER cable
<tcsetattr> when my hardware breaks, I get a hardware guy to fix it
<RevNeptho> A CAT-5 CROSSOVER CABLE
<tcsetattr> I'll do that tomorrow.. or monday
<RevNeptho> pacman: Write that down
<RevNeptho> CAT-5 CROSSOVER CABLE
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<tcsetattr> I don't need to know what kind of cable it is!
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<tcsetattr> it goes like this
* RevNeptho wonders if pacman can configure a tcp/ip stack
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<tcsetattr> I walk into the computer store
<RevNeptho> yes
<Texaco> (write it in all caps and yell it at the rat-shack guy)
<Cyron> well If I were near by I'd grab my crimper and a couple rj45's and fix yer cable...
<tcsetattr> I tell the guy
<RevNeptho> tell tem you need a CAT-5 CROSSOVER CABLE
<Cyron> but I live on the east coast so...
<Nina> pac.. can you at least build your own computers?
<RevNeptho> you dumbass
<tcsetattr> I WANT TWO ETHER CARDS, ONE PCI ONE ISA, AND A CABLE TO MAKE THEM GO
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<RevNeptho> nina: doubtful.
<Evil__Ed> erf
<terrapinn> texaco: that radio shack guy couldn't find a 10bT cable to save his ass
<tcsetattr> if the cable is wrong, it's HIS fault.
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<Texaco> its the same as a phone-cord, right ;)
<RevNeptho> pacman: he probably assumed ya werent gunna do a nullconnect and gave ya a normal cable
<RevNeptho> Texaco: >;)
<Texaco> 30-day warranty
<Nina> even I bastardized a machine and rebuilt my sons computer then had the joy of installing NT4.0 on the whore 5x til it booted right
<spuug> pacman: why don't you use 10base2 coax?
<Texaco> now how many wires does ethernet need again?
<tcsetattr> no, he knows what I'm doing
<Nina> now it hates the sound/video card and I get to replace those
<RevNeptho> Dear God
<RevNeptho> Jonny is running NT?
<Nina> 4.0 no doubt
<RevNeptho> oy vey
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<terrapinn> kids these days.
<Nina> his logon is "Administrator"
<RevNeptho> games will always suck on NT
<Nina> hahaha
<terrapinn> haha
<tcsetattr> the cable is broken now. I'll get him to fix it
<tcsetattr> and then it'll all be better..
<RevNeptho> Ya want 95 + DirectX
<Nina> it does.. I cant get shit to run on it
<RevNeptho> a PII 233 wont work
<Nina> DONT FUCKING GO THERE
<Texaco> did i see directX ?
<RevNeptho> Texaco: This is for an 8 year old who wants to play doom
<Nina> I have installed os after os on that bitch I swapped harddrive upgraded memory
<terrapinn> well, at least you didnt do what my dad did to me as a kid and give him an Apple //c
<Texaco> oh heh
<Nina> IM DONE W/ IT
<RevNeptho> who can still setup ethernet before pacman
<RevNeptho> Hell when I was 4 I knew 'broken cable bad'
* Nina troubleshoots ethernet for a living :)
<RevNeptho> especally when it went to my radios
<tcsetattr> Nep, you dolt
<terrapinn> hahaha
<Nina> but fuck.. he didnt have the right cable
<tcsetattr> I have been TRYING TO DETERMINE FOR THE PAST 2 HOURS WHETHER THE CABLE IS BROKEN!
<tcsetattr> THAT HAS BEEN IN DOUBT!
<Nina> Im going to buy a sparc and give johnny this machine
<RevNeptho> Nina: Wrong cable and it doesnt come with a clue
<spuug> terrapin: an Apple //c?  You're twisted for life now!
<tcsetattr> UNTIL THE END FELL OFF.
<Texaco> and in the process you broke it
<terrapinn> spuug: no doubt!
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<RevNeptho> pacman: ITS NOT THE RIGHT FUCKING CABLE IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE YOU IDIOT SAVANT
<RevNeptho> HE CAN C, BUT HE CANT SEE
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<terrapinn> hahah
* spuug blames James Gosling's mother for his twisted life.
<Nina> Poor Pacman
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<Nina> leave him alone I cant even write a hello world program
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<tcsetattr> so you're saying, white-orange-white-______-green is the wrong order?
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<foobi-wan> you're all lame
<Nina> *looks at her c book that dog3 bought her*
<terrapinn> where is pacman physically located?
<Figz> he's getting beat up worse than I did :(
<ex0dus> Does anyone know where I can get an account on a Public Access Unix Server?
<Figz> illinios?
<RevNeptho> Kevin: fuck you, yer lamer than me
<tcsetattr> I'm located in my chair
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<Figz> indiana I guess
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<tcsetattr> yeah, I'm in indiana
<ex0dus> wtf?
<tcsetattr> it's 1:25 am
<Texaco> nina: does it teach void main(void) ?
<Evil_Ed> oh, indiana
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<Evil_Ed> that explains it
<Dossy> woop
<RevNeptho> pacman: stop by the hardware store
<terrapinn> heh
<Dossy> $3.60 for adapters
<tcsetattr> if the computer store is open tomorrow, we'll get the cable fixed
<RevNeptho> and pick up a cluebyfour
<tcsetattr> heheh
<Nina> Texaco .. I dont know .. I hate scripts
<tcsetattr> I don't WANT to know about hardware, nep
<RevNeptho> Greg: poor pacman never done anything that hasnt started with 'ATDT'
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<haws> haha
<Nina> but I did manage to hack this script to do a few things :P
<Texaco> what?
<Evil_Ed> nep,. i know :)
<RevNeptho> pacman: Then just quit coding
<tcsetattr> ATDT? try ATDP, nep :)
<tcsetattr> no, Nep
<RevNeptho> pacman: pulse. feh
<Texaco> i thot it was a C book
<Evil_Ed> heh
<terrapinn> fuck... this robitussin isn't doing jack shit!  anyone know of a decent cough supressant?
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<tcsetattr> I am a programmer
<RevNeptho> pacman: THEN LEARN WHAT THE FUCK YER TRYING TO MAKE DO WHAT!
<Evil_Ed> terra, NyQuil
<Evil_Ed> drinkt he bottle
<tcsetattr> I write things which are hardware-independent
<Dr_Radium> terrapinn: strychnine
<Evil_Ed> you'll never get a cold again
<RevNeptho> Yer a programmer that doesnt understand what hes trying to make do what
<tcsetattr> I make use of standards, nep
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<Evil_Ed> especiall if you slam the whole bottle down
<RevNeptho> Thats like a MS programmer
<Evil_Ed> thansk cb :)
<terrapinn> ee: i have to get up for work sometime
<CrackBaby> np, ee
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<spuug> terrapin: the robo-DM is what gets you off...
<Hilfy> if you want a cough *suppressant* you need the Dungeon Master robitussin
<Evil_Ed> terra, feh
<RevNeptho> but usually they have a fague concept of 'wrong cable, no networked hearts game'
<terrapinn> i swear im gonna die if i dont get something
<Dr_Radium> terrapinn: crack open the freon tank to your refrigerator, pass it over a hot flame in the presence of oxygen, and inhale deeply...your cough will go away
<terrapinn> spuug: it's not phasing me
<tcsetattr> you don't have clue 1 about good programming if you don't understand the value of hardware-independent standards
<foobi-wan> hey cowboy.  i wanna stick my tubesteak into your sister.  what do you want in trade?
<terrapinn> spuug: i'm drinking it by the bottle
<Dr_Radium> (fyi, that creates a ww1 nerve gas)
<terrapinn> wow
<tcsetattr> it'd be a waste of my time to try to understand hardware
<tcsetattr> I can get other people to do that
<RevNeptho> tc: great, you know how to make code that will compile and probably run on most *IX servers, but if that server's power cable is unplugged and you dont know how to plug it in, what fucking good is it?
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<RevNeptho> Oh god
<RevNeptho> This log will be worth a fortune in 4 years
<Irish_2> funny comment from someone named tcsetattr() ;)
<RevNeptho> =)
<spuug> terrapin: narcotics are good for cough suppressants.
<tcsetattr> tcsetattr() is a POSIX function, Irish
<terrapinn> uuhahah rev
<Irish_2> um, and it manipulates ?
<terrapinn> spuug: i don't have any of those either. :(
<RevNeptho> after pacman figures 'uh.. NULL != PASS THRU'
<Irish_2> never mind.
<tcsetattr> it manipulates hardware at an abstract level
<terrapinn> i need something they sell at safeway
<tcsetattr> not on an individual-pink-wire level
<terrapinn> heh
<RevNeptho> iotcl(pacman, &brain, clue++);
<tcsetattr> ioctl() is non-standard :-P
<tcsetattr> I don't give a rat's ass about how the hardware works, so long as it runs POSIX code
<RevNeptho> shit my aixelsyd is poping up
<spuug> terrapin: having sex works, too.  ;-)
<Hilfy> BIOCADDCLUE
<tcsetattr> if the hardware is broken, someone else must fix it.
<RevNeptho> who plugged in yer keyboard for you, Alan?
<terrapinn> heh spuug, not a chance in hell of that happening tonight
<spuug> terrapin: heh heh.
<RevNeptho> Im sure yer mother can understand that much..
<tcsetattr> took me a couple hours yesterday to figure out that my computer was being slow because the turbo button was in the wrong position
<RevNeptho> 'Cable goes in here'
<tcsetattr> and I was proud of myself once I figured it out too :)
<RevNeptho> 'PS/2 mouse looks like keyboard but shouldnt go in there'
* terrapinn finds neptho's mod collection
<RevNeptho> WAHAHAHAHAHA
* RevNeptho smacks terrapin
<RevNeptho> go to www.modarchive.com
<RevNeptho> dammit
<tcsetattr> my computer came with neat little stickers by the ports... they're labeled "COM1"
<terrapinn> heheh
<RevNeptho> dont saturate my ISDN :P
<tcsetattr> "LPT1"
<tcsetattr> etc
<terrapinn> my connection sucks too bad to fetch anyway
<tcsetattr> so it's easy to know what goes where
<RevNeptho> fucker
<spuug> pacman: that's your abstract hardware for you.
* RevNeptho isnt in X and didnt go check his locallogs on pry13
<tcsetattr> of course those have been remapped, and now the stickers are in the wrong place
<RevNeptho> spuug: so abastact, its PHYSICAL
<terrapinn> let me repeat the beg one more time
<tcsetattr> but it's ok, I don't actually have any duplicates back there
<terrapinn> anyone in the bay area with a zip drive and a fast connection?
<RevNeptho> terr: No zip drive here
<RevNeptho> no fast connection here
<terrapinn> ok, thanks rev
<terrapinn> shiit
<RevNeptho> only dual channel ISDN
<terrapinn> i have 7200bps
<RevNeptho> and an external Zip a roomie bought that he hasnt unpackaged yet
<RevNeptho> get one at Frys
<RevNeptho> and return it
<terrapinn> and flakey 7200bps at that
<RevNeptho> >;)
<RevNeptho> 7200?
<terrapinn> i'll bring my scsi zip external over!
<RevNeptho> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YEW RUNNING?
<RevNeptho> Dude Im in union shitty
<terrapinn> pacbell lines
<RevNeptho> terr: dear god
<tcsetattr> yeah, these ports (and the stickers) aren't very abstract, but if my serial port was broken, would you be asking me to examine the board to find out what kinds of chips are on it?
<RevNeptho> I feel for you
* RevNeptho deals with PacBell daily
<terrapinn> they must be paper-wrapped
<terrapinn> these lines are so fucking horrible
* RevNeptho ponders blowing pacman's mind
<tcsetattr> I wouldn't do that, I'd just take it to the computer store and say "Og try use port, it no work."
<terrapinn> and pacbell is so damn clueless
<spuug> terrapin: a 28k8 that has negotiated down to 7k2?
<RevNeptho> 'I see a yellow alarm on the CSU, but can get to the NI fine.'
<Texaco> give Ogg good port, no plastic-thingy break
<terrapinn> spuug: a ZyXEL 19.2
<tcsetattr> yeah!
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<Figz> pacman, it'd help if you carry a large stick
<tcsetattr> Og try use ethernet. Og no make ping work. Og try reverse cable. Og break end off. Og ask hardware guy fix it for Og.
<spuug> terrapin: ah... I could have upgraded my zyxels from 14.4 to that.
<Texaco> just take the cable back, "This doesn't work in the bathtub"
<terrapinn> my modem is irrelevant though.
<terrapinn> this line blows
<terrapinn> it sounds like ass
<terrapinn> where the hell is union city anyways, nep?
<tcsetattr> hey... if I thought putting it in the bathtub would help...
<RevNeptho> Og try networking. Og should buy cisco book.
* Figz worries what pacman would do with a video toaster
<RevNeptho> terra: er... past freemont
<terrapinn> bartable!
<RevNeptho> Not really
<terrapinn> that's like, near, and stugg
<RevNeptho> not sure where the close bart is
<terrapinn> stuff
<RevNeptho> Figz: put a slice of bread on it
<tcsetattr> Og no try build network. Og asked hardware guy build network. Og just try to use it.
<spuug> "Livin' in the city..."
<tcsetattr> Og no want read many books use network
<terrapinn> i could go into work but there is no peecee with a scsi card
<Figz> pacman <- closet luddite
<RevNeptho> WAHAHAHA
<terrapinn> i could take my scsi card but i dont have administrator access on the pcs
<RevNeptho> he isnt a luddite, the amish dont allow that
<Figz> hehe, pacman amish?
<terrapinn> i'd take a linux boot disk if my fucking floppy drive would work!
<tcsetattr> I'm not amish. I'm just not the hardware guy.
<terrapinn> this is hopeless
<terrapinn> i should just go to bed
<Figz> amish are hardcore about hardware
<Figz> you really do have to forge it yourself
<Evil_Ed> i'd love to see an amish programmer.
<Texaco> heh
<Figz> EE, I'd expect they'd be pretty good, they're just reverse pacman's
<Figz> it's just not their thing
<Evil_Ed> heh
<Evil_Ed> with vars named "jebediah" and shit
<terrapinn> hahaha
<tcsetattr> anything more advanced than shoving the card in the motherboard slot is just not in my problem domain
<CrackBaby> haha
<Figz> haha
* RevNeptho remembers his old fundie thing:
<RevNeptho> 'SAVE THE ELECTRONS - JOIN THE AMISH COMPUTER CAMP'
<RevNeptho> That was my '91 geekfest slogan
* RevNeptho was a true geek then and not just a drunk
<Evil_Ed> heh
<terrapinn> heh
* CrackBaby bibleslaps neptho
* terrapinn churns butter
<terrapinn> my 65 year-old landlady has more of a social life than i do
<terrapinn> this is pathetic
<RevNeptho> yew cant hurt me with one of those..
<RevNeptho> Two of them perhaps
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<RevNeptho> Jee
<RevNeptho> Amazing
<CrackBaby> That is pretty bad.
<Texaco> bingo, bridge, and soaps?
<terrapinn> you think im joking
<RevNeptho> that cuttenpaste got... 'gpm borked'
<Evil_Ed> heh
<terrapinn> she just came home from the movies
<Evil_Ed> line noise!
<terrapinn> i'm still sitting here on irc
<RevNeptho> ed: CALL THE HARDWARE GUY!
<Evil_Ed> i guess that dosent mean pacman...
<spuug> The Cable Guy?
* RevNeptho ordered delivery pizza so he could harass pacman more than go get real food
<RevNeptho> WAHAHAH
<RevNeptho> bad ed
<RevNeptho> bad
<RevNeptho> bad spuug
* Evil_Ed giggles
<Texaco> terra:  push the red switch on the front of the panel
<terrapinn> neptho, you need a gopher server on shitbox
<RevNeptho> push the button called 'reset', it will make everything better
<RevNeptho> terr: I will
<Figz> pacman == mr mgoo as hardware guy?
<tcsetattr> heh
<RevNeptho> I make the http almost as gopher as possible
<tcsetattr> all I can say is
<tcsetattr> I am 100% sure this is not my fault.
<CrackBaby> s/mgoo/bean
<tcsetattr> I barely touched that thing!
<CrackBaby> haha
<tcsetattr> the end just brushed up against the other wires back there, and fell off
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<RevNeptho> ITS NOT PACMANS FAULT HE HAS NO KLOO
<tcsetattr> that can't be my fault
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<RevNeptho> HE JUST DOESNT WANT TO HAVE TO LEARN IT
<RevNeptho> shit
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<terrapinn> ITT Tech teaches 'em good!
<CrackBaby> Good be that the connector was loose the whole time.
<RevNeptho> he sounds like 99% of the people he kickbans
<SUCKAFOO> JOIN #OASISRULES
<RevNeptho> cb: doubtful.
<CrackBaby> s/Good/Could
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<Figz> pacman, actually, it means that the guy that scriped the cable didn't push hard enough to get the conductors to the end of their grooves
<terrapinn> yeah!  they do rule!
<RevNeptho> b33r
<Figz> so they squished out of the way as the crimps came down
<Figz> s/scriped/crimped/
<terrapinn> maybe buffcoat and beaver are on tv
<tcsetattr> and would that explain the failure to communicate before the end fell off?
<RevNeptho> tc: solar wind affects ethernet
<Figz> pacman, yea, a conductor or two could have been making intermittant contact with the crimp.
<Texaco> its el nino of course
<Dr_Radium> is nihil part of the Guild or r00t
<RevNeptho> EL NINO!
<RevNeptho> eaahahahah
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<Dr_Radium> El Chupacabra!
<spuug> el Nina
<tcsetattr> hm
<RevNeptho> dude, texaco, for a satanic pentagram, yer allright
<tcsetattr> I gotta find the other piece of that end connect
<tcsetattr> or
<tcsetattr> it must have fallen on the floor
* RevNeptho had a texaco symbol he wears proudly
* tcsetattr gets a flashlight
<Figz> drR, I believe so
<RevNeptho> pacman: You accidently swollowed it
<Figz> nihilis!nihilis@moral.addiction.com (outside of moral boundaries)
<Figz> that guy?
<Dr_Radium> no
<Dr_Radium> nihil
* RevNeptho remembers r00t haxxoring that stupid japanese dude who caught mitnik
<Figz> tsutomu's not stupid
<Dr_Radium> nihil's part of the Guild
<Dr_Radium> ok
<Figz> he's just arrogant
<Dr_Radium> dunno if he irc's as nihil though
<RevNeptho> hes not stupid, hes got PACMAN disease!
<Dr_Radium> but the nihil that is on right now is on via a cable modem
<tcsetattr> heh
<Texaco> so he should be talking twice as fast as the rest of us
<Figz> no, tsutomu knows hardware
* RevNeptho smacks Figz
<RevNeptho> that was meaner than my comment
<tcsetattr> Nep, you silly DOS lamer. it is not a _disease_ to rise above the level of one's hardware
<RevNeptho> pacman: Yeah, you know how it should work, but when it gets unplugged, ya dont know how to plug it back in.. really efficient
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<mouse_> my friend's sound card has the *SHITTIEST* line out i've EVER hear
<RevNeptho> WHY HAVE A CAR IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO GIVE THE FUCKING THING GAS?
<tcsetattr> I know how to plug things in, Nep
<mouse_> s/hear/heard
<Figz> mouse, worse than creative labs?
<RevNeptho> pacman: You just put diesel in an unleaded machine. lucky ya didnt fuck it for life
<mouse_> figz: theres this very low bass "BRRMMMMM"
<Figz> heh
<RevNeptho> mouse: sounds like creative labs
<mouse_> i downloaded titanic mp3 soundtrack, theres no way i can make a tape of it..
<tcsetattr> I plugged the cable in, then I unplugged it, and the end fell off
<RevNeptho> mouse: GET A GUS
* RevNeptho ducks
<Figz> heh, poor advanced gravis
<mouse_> i think ill just go buy the soundtrack
<mouse_> is the awe64 gold anything worth talking about?
<RevNeptho> you have to push that little doo-hickie tab thingy down when ya pull it out pacman
<Irish_2> I think lots of pcmcia modems got fried by digital lines until some h/w guy wised up ;)
<RevNeptho> Figz: May they rest in piece
<tcsetattr> I pushed the doo-hickie tab thingy!
<spuug> mouse: yeah, my friend tried some Zoltrix sound cards... absolute crap, he had to return them.
<RevNeptho> dont push it UP!
<tcsetattr> the end fell off _after_ I removed it from the giant phone jack hole
<Figz> bah, they were local to me
<Dr_Radium> wtf is wrong with pacmans hardware?
<tcsetattr> it was safely removed from the hole
<RevNeptho> pacman, dont yank the cable seperately
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<Figz> pacman, the big plastic phone bit fell off?
<Dr_Radium> so you've got 8 bare strands of cat-5 wire and a detatched crimped rj45 jack?
<RevNeptho> tyler: he doesnt know what the fuck it is, whats it for, or what its pinout is
<mouse_> a soundcard can be great. of course if you can't get a decent ground loop out of the way, its a piece of crap
<Figz> so all you've got is an unhappy stump end of a wire?
<Irish_2> you circumcised it.
<terrapinn> no way
<terrapinn> cnn.com sports
<tcsetattr> and I was starting to walk away with it, and it brushed up against some of the other wires coming out the back of the computer, and it just fell off
<terrapinn> play of the day
<terrapinn> unfuckingbelievable
<RevNeptho> m,mhmm
<tcsetattr> I know exactly what's wrong, nep
<Dr_Radium> is this a wire from the country kit out of a sparc5?
<tcsetattr> I am not without cloo
<tcsetattr> here
<tcsetattr> THE FUCKING END FELL OFF. THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG.
<RevNeptho> pacman ripped it out in fury
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<Figz> heh, gee, could it be broke?
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<RevNeptho> and how saying it 'fell apart'
<mouse_> STOP YELLING
<Figz> hehe
<mouse_> thank you
<mouse_> and op me, dammit, before ilose my mind
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<tcsetattr> hey... it DID fall apart.
<Figz> mouse, whenever you give a flurry of apparently numeric keypad generated crap, that's your cat?
<tcsetattr> it looked like this []---------------
<RevNeptho> mouse: fixz pacman's problem.
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<tcsetattr> now it looks like this []          ----------------
<mouse_> figz: oh
<mouse_> figz: i think that's me
<tcsetattr> i.e. FELL OFF.
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<mouse_> figz: the keyboards on my bed, i sleep with the vt on it
<mouse_> ill try and move it next time
<Figz> mouse, haha
<RevNeptho> Thats a symptom, but the original problem remains
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<mouse_> thankjoo
<mouse_> heh
<RevNeptho> figz: thats drool on the vt
<tcsetattr> the original problem, hopefully, was that the end thingy was only attached very loosely to the wire, and that's why it wasn't working.
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<mouse_> damn
<RevNeptho> pacman, even drool, if set correctly can make a conductor
<Texaco> i am asleep
<mouse_> this sound card really sux
<Texaco> have a good nite all
<RevNeptho> try licking the wires while plugged in
* RevNeptho slaps himself
<Figz> neptho, not at pc voltage
<Figz> you need some salt
<Figz> try urine
<RevNeptho> Figz: no, but salt will help
<RevNeptho> HAHAHAH
* RevNeptho ^5 Figz
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<spuug> saliva has a little salt in it.
<RevNeptho> piss on cable, pacman
<Figz> spuug, a little
<Figz> neptho, that won't work either
<RevNeptho> figz: sure it will
<Cyron> <Cyron> I found god in /dev/null...
<Figz> it needs to be restrained into the little channels
<Figz> I suppose he could hard wire it to the bottom of the nic.
<RevNeptho> he can at least vent his rage in a manner equating his intellectual level
<Figz> just solder it to the bottom of the connector
<spuug> ignore Ren & Stimpy's advice about whizzing on electric fences.
<RevNeptho> figz: each wire has its own whizz stream
<tcsetattr> I don't need to vent my rage on the cable :)
<RevNeptho> pacman: rage it on yerself
<RevNeptho> YA asked for whatever he gave you
<Dr_Radium> pacman is officially fucked.
<RevNeptho> because ya werent smart enough to know he was anally probing yew
<tcsetattr> I will just give it back to they dork who sold it to me and tell him "The end fell off", and he'll fix it
<RevNeptho> (if he indeed is)
<RevNeptho> tell him YOU NEED A CROSSOVER CABLE
<tcsetattr> if you buy something, and it doesn't work, you take it back and complain
<RevNeptho> or it still wont work
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<RevNeptho> you dumbfuck
<RevNeptho> 'I HAVE NO HUB
<Dr_Radium> pacman: you are hereby reduced 4 steps in geek-rank
<RevNeptho> I DONT KNOW WHAT IM DOING
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<tcsetattr> I'm not gonna tell HIM what kind of cable I need. he's the one who sold me the ethernet cards, he knows better than I do what kind of cable they require
<RevNeptho> * Pacman is hit with a -12 sword of anticlue.
<RevNeptho> no he doesnt
[E/X] The time is now 11:00pm.
<RevNeptho> he probably assumes you have a hub
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<tcsetattr> if he don't know, then how the fuck should I know
<RevNeptho> because yer too fucking stupid to realize you need one
<mouse_> i think my stereo is too good for the soundcard
<mouse_> yes, it is
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<RevNeptho> yer ignorant. admit it. now write down the word crossover on yer forehead
<SortMui> wahhhhhhhhh
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<RevNeptho> then it will work tomorrow
<tcsetattr> what do you mean by "hub"? does that have something to do with routing? and how can that be related to the low level shit
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<RevNeptho> pacman: read the ETHERNET-Howto
<tcsetattr> I read the fucking Ethernet HOWTO
<RevNeptho> and try to comprehend it this time
<tcsetattr> it does not tell me any of this fucking shit
<sad_bug> what's teh eth howto say?
<lumpy_> thanks fc
<RevNeptho> Oy vey
<RevNeptho> where do we start
<Figz> pacman, that stuff is usually refered to as "common sense"
<tcsetattr> it doesn't contain instructions on what to do when the end of your pink cable falls off
<mouse_> you
<mouse_> stop your bitching
<Figz> hmm
<RevNeptho> Figz: What does "common sense" have to do with coders?
* mouse_ bitchslaps tcsetattr
<mouse_> get a new cable
<mouse_> they're a dime a dozen
<CrackBaby> net-3-howto
* Figz compiles the compendium of common sense
<tcsetattr> %fgrep 'pink cable' Ethernet-HOWTO | fgrep 'the fucking end falls off' | wc
<tcsetattr>       0       0       0
<sad_bug> pacman: having problems with the cable/crimping?
<tcsetattr> SEEE!(*&!(*^%
<CrackBaby> hahaha
<RevNeptho> sad: not only that but he doesnt know what kind of cable it is
<Figz> pbug, just drop it, it's a very sad story :)
<RevNeptho> he doesnt know what a HUB is
<RevNeptho> he doesnt know what a GATEWAY does
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<RevNeptho> he doesnt know what a ROUTER is
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<sad_bug> who cares neppy
<tcsetattr> I do not need to know what kind of cable it is.
<sad_bug> pacman don't need to know thzt
<RevNeptho> and he bearly understands what a cable is needed for
<tcsetattr> I am not the cable guy.
<sad_bug> s/thzt/that
<lumpy_> hi mister mousey
<Figz> it's got a big phone connector thingy on the end, that's good enough
<lumpy_> pbug why so sad?
<RevNeptho> sad: Of coruse not, he doesnt need to know what he needs to setup a personal network </sarcasm>
<RevNeptho> Figz: ROTFL
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<tcsetattr> Nepchoad, I assume that the cable is needed because my computer is not capable of telepathy
<-[figz]-> we're really fucking evil
* lumpy_ throws a frad at neppy
<sad_bug> that's why there is network administrators and unix administrators
<mouse_> lumpy: EHLO lumpy@bring.down.the-network.com
<sad_bug> I'm moving lumpy
<RevNeptho> Pacman: Yes, but a certain type of cable is needed :P
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[Figz] he jumped on me last night, but I don't think he's being damaged
<RevNeptho> 207: command not supported
<-[Figz]-> <snicker>
[Figz] he just doesn't want to know hardware stuffs :)
<lumpy_> mouse: eww. i dont speak extended commands.
<-[Figz]-> >;)
* RevNeptho fwaps lumpy
<tcsetattr> no, Figz
<lumpy_> pbug: to where and why?
<tcsetattr> not a big phone connector thingy
<RevNeptho> Lumpy IS NOT ESMTP
<tcsetattr> a GIANT phone connector thingy
<tcsetattr> you don't know anything. :-P
<pbug> hmm that's better hmm I dind't know  I had another irc sessoin going
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<mouse_> jo are LAME then
<-[Figz]-> Hahaha this is so funny its almost funny
<tcsetattr> you don't understand... it's like, way more bigger than a normal telephone jack
<Figz> pacman, actually, I think they make rj connectors larger than rj45
<tcsetattr> :)
<Figz> so carefull
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<Figz> pacman, it's only the next size up
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[Figz] god, did you really say that?
<-[Figz]-> yes.
<tcsetattr> I knew you'd like that one, nepchoad
<-[Figz]-> hense redundancy
<RevNeptho> pacman, bend over
<mouse_> nepchoad i like it :)
<RevNeptho> I got a cable for yew
<mouse_> did you get that word from south park? :)
<RevNeptho> its to be taken anally
<RevNeptho> Nah
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<tcsetattr> I learned the word "choad" from Beavis and Butt-head
<RevNeptho> nepchoad is old
<RevNeptho> he learned it at least by '96
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<abelits> hi, ppl/wizards/hackers/lamers/geeks/nerds!
<tcsetattr> heh
<RevNeptho> only took him 4 years (holding up 3 fingers)
<pbug> it's weird maybe I'm sad because I packed my pentium away
<tcsetattr> hahaha
<Figz> heh
<RevNeptho> abe: pacman is in `cut -f3 -d/`
<butnik2> anyone seen mikem
<lumpy_> butnik!
<butnik2> hi lump
* lumpy_ huggles ipf
<butnik2> jamie rishaw must die
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<RevNeptho> I agree
<RevNeptho> zawinski must die
<butnik2> huh?
<butnik2> who is that
<pbug>  hmmm sawinski
<RevNeptho> zawinski must die
<tcsetattr> oh
<RevNeptho> under my car
<tcsetattr> here's an idea
<lumpy_> i have to remember to make some aliases...  rehashipf = ipfstat -i | ipf -rf - ; cat /etc/ipf.rules | ipf -f -
<RevNeptho> he coded the 'news', 'mail' and main lameness into nutscrape
<pbug> sounds like mutski
<tcsetattr> would y'all like to hear about the war I fought against windoze 90210 to get it to recognize the ether card?
<mouse_> i cant believe they may not have the irish jig music on the titanic cd
<mouse_> unbelievable
<tcsetattr> and the similar war I fought against linux for the same purpose
<lumpy_> butnik how are you?
<Figz> lumpy ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules is easier..
<RevNeptho> tc: to find out that they werent really connected because you were trying to speak OSPF in a BGP world :P
<butnik2> lump, not too bad
<RevNeptho> '<pacman> what is ospf?'
<spuug> "What does a web browser need with news and mail functions?"  I ask myself.
* RevNeptho forsees the future
<tcsetattr> I wasn't going to ask.
<RevNeptho> do you want to know? thats were all of real cool actual routing and shit is
<butnik2> except for jamie rishaw spoofing my nic contact and stealing a domain, fine
<RevNeptho> its like... so geeky its to cum for
<madbombah> woop woop
<lumpy_> fc:hrm. i see that now :)
<tcsetattr> I don't give a rat's ass about routing
<RevNeptho> butnik: put him on perm smurf
<Nina> ooh
<lumpy_> nina!
<Nina> w/o routing your hosed
<Nina> lumpy
<RevNeptho> ./ig tcsetattr awl
<RevNeptho> nina: Hes kl00less
<Nina> you gotta know routing
<madbombah> who needs routing
<pbug> don't smurf
<pbug> lame
<RevNeptho> nina: he doesnt want to know he doesnt care
<tcsetattr> routing is someone else's problem
<RevNeptho> <SIGH>
<lumpy_> routing is simple
* Nina is gonna be the ultimate bofh, admin and routing goddess
<RevNeptho> HE JUST WANTS SOMEONE ELSE TO DO EVERYTHING FOR HIM
<Nina> PHEAR ME NOW
<tcsetattr> I don't deny that it needs to be there
<lumpy_> theres no reason to think about it or care about it
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<tcsetattr> I just don't want to be the person who has to fuck with it
<RevNeptho> routing is fun
<RevNeptho> AS numbers are odd
<Nina> pacman, actually its alot of fun
<lumpy_> routing is easy
<RevNeptho> BGP is odd
<pbug> hey I agree with pacman
<RevNeptho> but its fun
<lumpy_> i hab an AS number
<RevNeptho> lumpy: What is it?
<lumpy_> neppy do you?
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<tcsetattr> whatever you say
* RevNeptho makes a new rule
<RevNeptho> lumpy: yes.
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<tcsetattr> I don't enjoy low-level stuff
<pbug> some people just dont' want to fuck with routing
<lumpy_> rev: check my CIDR infos
<RevNeptho> lumpy: I'll show you my AS number if you show me yers
<lumpy_> hehe
<Evil_Ed> thanks nina :)
<tcsetattr> I enjoy typing "rlogin somehost -l pacman" and having it work
* RevNeptho sighs - now I gotta telnet into my cisco :P
* RevNeptho fwaps pacman
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<tcsetattr> I enjoy using unix without knowing whether it's a PeeCee or a sparc or a Sequent Symmetry
<tcsetattr> it don't matter to me!
<Nina> bottomline is
<Nina> everyone has their own strengths, if everyone knew the same thing than we'd be fucked
<pbug> hrmm what does cisco have to do with unix?
<tcsetattr> if I can run zsh, and I can run trn, I'm happy
<RevNeptho> BRAD
<RevNeptho> YER NAME IS BRAD?
<tcsetattr> really
<Nina> without good routing ppl and good admins and good coders everything would be borked
* RevNeptho looks at lumpZ
<pbug> nina: agreed
<tcsetattr> Nepchoad seems to think that anyone who's not a hardware-monkey is worthless
<Nina> we all use each others shit ..
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<pdave> blah
<RevNeptho> pacman, no, just you
<tcsetattr> heh
<RevNeptho> if you cant support your own goddamn network
<RevNeptho> yer a pile of shit :P
<Nina> w/o ciscos you have no network
<lumpy_> bgp is neat if you are a big backbone and all your locations are setup with different AS numbers so that you can use other peoples bandwidth more than your own
<tcsetattr> Nepchoad, did you write your own IRC client?
<RevNeptho> Nina: he has no hub and doesnt have a crossover cable
<tcsetattr> you can't support your own IRC client! you shouldn't be here!
<tcsetattr> did you write your own TCP/IP implementation?
<RevNeptho> pacman, no, but I understand how it works and I could if I was so inclined
<Nina> pacman, just go get a little hub
<pbug> nina: nauw come'on put a luscent router there and you'll be fine :)
<tcsetattr> you aren't supporting your own network either!
<Nina> plug it into the hub into the computer
<Nina> easy
<RevNeptho> pacman: sure I am, thats what I get paid for, you dumb asshole :P
<tcsetattr> Nina, the connector fell off the end of the cable.
<Nina> your fucked then
<lumpy_>   brad?
<Nina> just get a new one
<lumpy_> no im not brad
<tcsetattr> but Neppie, did you write all the software yourself?
<tcsetattr> no, you didn't
<lumpy_> brad is our webmaster
<RevNeptho> pacman: Nope, but I could care less, someone else has and it works, but I have read most of the code :P
<lumpy_> 
<Nina> as a matter of fact, the hottest jobs right now are for ppl who can route and do admin
<Nina> sys admin / routing engineers
<tcsetattr> you are just a worthless little hardware monkey. what good are your pink, orange, white, green, and red cables if there are no standard protocols to use on them?
<pdave> nina: starting pay?
<lumpy_> the hottest jobs, as a matter of fact, are in the sex industry
<tcsetattr> right
<lumpy_> lets all become pron stars
<Nina> dave, whatever you want basically
<Nina> to be multi talented is priceless
<RevNeptho> tc: what good are protocols without the wires for them, you assnine assmunch
<tcsetattr> I'm just turning your own rant against you
* Nina is learning routing and admin
<RevNeptho> remember, I once was a coder, but I grew up - yer like panasync, but he understands networking
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<lumpy_> pacman, hi!
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<Nina> Neptho, pacman can code your pants off
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<tcsetattr> without hardware, we have nothing, and without software, our hardware is pointless
<lumpy_> pacman: are you still living your life without a goal?
<pdave> nina: oooo...  rollin in the dough... I guess it's time to stop pretending I'm the Deliverator from "Snow Crash"
<Nina> but you can network his
<Nina> pdave, do you live in the bayarea?
<tcsetattr> yes I am. goals lead to stress. Better to have none.
<RevNeptho> Nina: If I had the inclination, Im sure I could almost get to pacmans coding level, but Im bored of that
<pdave> Nina: close enough...
<Nina> look at excite for instance, they have a network admin job and look at the requirements
<lumpy_> pacman: just curious
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<tcsetattr> heh
<Nina> but he likes it, therefore he's great at it
<pbug> yeah pacman's code rocks
<Nina> why am I sticking up for pacman?
<tcsetattr> I'm not a great programmer
<pbug> because I am too
<pbug> sure you are
<Nina> pac you are too
<pbug> if it don't core it's great
<lumpy_> pacman: what have you written?
<tcsetattr> I'm an astonishingly mediocre programmer
<Nina> maybe by your standards, which are probably high since your so fucking anal
<mouse_> no, he really is a bad programmer
<tcsetattr> I haven't written anything that any large number of people are using
<mouse_> he uses GOTOs in C.
<Nina> but everyone has their strengths
* pdave is trying to complete some of the niftier ideas that pacman thought of in the first place.
<pbug> goto's rock
<lumpy_> mouse: not this debate again :)
<tcsetattr> mousey, you already had gotos in there and you know it :)
<mouse_> i had no gotos in there
<mouse_> i can do loop control unlike you
<tcsetattr> you had gotos in there!
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<mouse_> i did not
<tcsetattr> I still have the record of them.
<pbug> who cares
<pbug> if you have a goto at least that makes your code unique
<tcsetattr>   if( (sets_owned == 4 && loc_set == SET_RAILROAD) || (sets_owned==2 &&
<tcsetattr>         (loc_set==SET_BLUE || loc_set==SET_PURPLE || loc_set==SET_UTILITY)) )
<tcsetattr>   {
<tcsetattr>     goto all; /* This is lame, I know */
<tcsetattr>   }
<tcsetattr>   else if( (sets_owned == 3) && (loc_set != SET_RAILROAD) )
<lumpy_> tcs: what sorta stuff have you written and released and stuff?
<mouse_> and by the way
<lumpy_> i have killed a man, a man who looked like me
<mouse_> your "Paving" of removing my extern char *getopt because YOU thought it was in unistd.h broke MY compile
* lumpy_ listens to FSOL some more
<spuug> No, please people, not the GOTO considered harmful thing again.
<tcsetattr>   {
<tcsetattr> all: notice(M_INFO, 0, "%s now owns all of that set.", u->nick);
<tcsetattr>   }
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<tcsetattr>   else
<tcsetattr>   {
<tcsetattr>     notice(M_INFO, 0, "%s now owns %d cards of that set.", u->nick, sets_owned);
<tcsetattr>   }
<tcsetattr> mouse, getopt _is_ in unistd.h
<lumpy_> whoa
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<lumpy_> mouse
<mouse_> tcsetattr: sunos 4.1.4 won't compile it
<lumpy_> can we play monopoly?
<lumpy_> im up for a game
<tcsetattr> it is _incorrect_ to provide your own declarations of standard functions
<Nina> I dont have a clue as to what pac is doing.. I guess I should learn it
<tcsetattr> it's real simple... if you didn't write the function, you don't write the prototype either
<pdave> push_project quake2-wrapper
<mouse_> yeah well, i had to extern it to ref it
<mouse_> thats why extern errno is around too
<lumpy_> nina: he is doing an /exec -o grep -3 goto mouseyscode.c
<tcsetattr> that's because SunOS 4 is fscking weird.
<lumpy_> nina :P
<Nina> how do you play monopoly?
<lumpy_> heheh
<tcsetattr> "extern int errno" is likewise incorrect.
<lumpy_> mouse can we play?
<tcsetattr> errno may be a macro
<mouse_> well fuck you and your non-sunos :)
<Nina> okay.. I think
<Idcmp> holy macro batman
<Nina> whats really scary is
<tcsetattr> the only correct way to get its declaration is #include <errno.h>
<Nina> last year I sorta had an idea of what you guys were talking about in here
* RevNeptho likes doug's lack of directory structure
<mouse_> i do #include <unistd.h> and #include <errno.h> and i STILL have to define it
<Nina> now I actually understand what all your wierd ass commands are cuz I have my own box now
<mouse_> what a bucnh of CRAP
<mouse_> im not buying the titanic soundtrack.
<lumpy_> mouse mouse mouse
<pbug> shouldn't you define extern int errno; anyways always?
<Dr_Radium> mouse: heh
<mouse_> it doesnt have the jig on it. whta a JIP
<tcsetattr> it's widely known that the SunOS 4 libc is not ANSI compliant
<mouse_> pbug: YEA!
<tcsetattr> I code standard C and I don't give a damn if it breaks on your non-standard compiler.
<tcsetattr> extern int errno is incorrect.
<mouse_> see what following standards will get ya
<pbug> but wait if it's defined in errno.h then it should be alright
* mouse_ slaps tcsetattr
<pbug> extern int errno;                       /* global error number */
<tcsetattr> errno may be a macro. if you use "extern int errno" you are explicitly going against standard C.
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<lumpy_> ok
<tcsetattr> if it is a macro, it will produce a result of type int
<lumpy_> this is strange
<tcsetattr> #define errno *(get_errno_location())
<tcsetattr> stuff like that
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<lumpy_> screen is bringing my system load up higher than it was with x running
<ElGriton>  what is the command to compile in linux 2.0 ?
<lumpy_> hrm
<lumpy_> el: compile
<pbug> wow
<pbug> #ifdef  _THREAD_SAFE
<pbug> #include <sys/cdefs.h>
<pbug> __BEGIN_DECLS
<pbug> int *   __error __P((void));
<pbug> __END_DECLS
<pbug> #define errno           (* __error())
<pbug> #else
<pbug> extern int errno;                       /* global error number */
<pbug> #endif
<tcsetattr> so, anyone who wants to play monopoly, say so now
<lumpy_> me!
<ElGriton> a friend asked
<pbug> that's rather nested ifdef's
<pdave> pacman: let's play monopolistic competition...
<spuug> ElGriton: f77?
<tcsetattr> I don't see many players
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<ElGriton> i have no idea im still using winblows
<pbug> where is this __P macro?
<pbug> I see it all over
<mouse_> its kinda late
<lumpy_> __P bug
<tcsetattr> __P is probably in cdefs.h
* pbug nods...and checks.
<RevNeptho> pbug: the pink cable ises a __P struct
<tcsetattr> it's a thing that people use to provide prototypes, or not prototypes, depending on whether the compiler can handle them
<tcsetattr> __P((void)) will probably be (void) if prototypes are enabled, and just () if they're not
<pbug> #define __P(protos)     protos          /* full-blown ANSI C */
<tcsetattr> so you will get either
<pbug> hmm
<tcsetattr> int * __error (void)
<tcsetattr> or
<tcsetattr> int * __error()
<pdave> survey time...  I'm writing a wrapper for quake2 to help prevent security problems and make it behave like a normal unix program...
<RevNeptho> pdave: YER MAKING ASCII QUAKE2? YAY!
<Hank> Howdy all... does anyone here know much about Samba networking?
<pdave> should NFS mounting of the pak.0 file be allowed?
<tcsetattr> that's the kind of crap you get into if you try to support non-standard compilers
* RevNeptho looks at pdave.
<pdave> Neptho: nonononono... a wrapper around Id's quake2
* mouse_ shrugs
<mouse_> it was gcc that was doing the complaining, not cc
<RevNeptho> wrapper around quake2.
<butnik2> no
<RevNeptho> er...
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<RevNeptho> to make it safe?
<pdave> revneptho: have you used linux quake2 yet?
<RevNeptho> does it have a bright pink cable?
<tcsetattr> gcc is only half of a standard C implementation
<RevNeptho> pdave: No dave
<tcsetattr> the other half is a standard library
<pdave> revneptho: okay... quake2 expects to find its libs in the CURRECT DIRECTORY of all places.
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<RevNeptho> pdave: Jee
<spuug> later taters & tots.
<RevNeptho> #!/bin/sh
<pdave> you can't do something like use $HOME/.quake2/autoexec.cfg
<RevNeptho> cd /usr/games/quake2/lame
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<RevNeptho> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=`pwd`
<RevNeptho> ./lame2
<RevNeptho> ^Z
<RevNeptho> that was hard
<pdave> revneptho: and Zoid just put on his .project file that one should su first... klunky
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<RevNeptho> grarglefugZ
<pdave> revneptho: it doesn't work like that
<RevNeptho> sounds like an antipacman
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<RevNeptho> pacman would be anal about security and not give a shit about graphics
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<RevNeptho> even if he didnt know he need not worry abotu seciruty because he pulled out the cable
<tcsetattr> haha
<tcsetattr> can I get a rough estimate
<tcsetattr> how long before you let this go, Nep
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* RevNeptho ponders reading the cisco 'IRA' book again.
<pdave> revneptho: just when it looked like they got the svgalib security stuff fixed, id goes and moves the mouse initialization stuff to root mode.. and then got sloppy about relinquishing rootness
<RevNeptho> pacman: until you come home tomorrow and admit 'I should have told that guy I need a crossover cable, even though I dont know what the hell it is'
<tcsetattr> I'm beginning to think Nepchoad snuck into my house and fucked up the cable so the end would fall off
<tcsetattr> it's all part of his MASTER PLAN...
<RevNeptho> pdave: Oh god.
<RevNeptho> pacman: I dont need to dethrone you, you do well on your own.
<pdave> I'm going to try to run it remotely and see how badly it hammers the network
<tcsetattr> all right... since fireclown ain't been here for like 3 weeks
<RevNeptho> 183.165.158.205.in-addr.arpa    name = shitbox.mustelid.com
<RevNeptho> Fuckme
<pdave> revneptho: don't dethrone him.  he'll shit all over the place!
<RevNeptho> I still got 28 minutes untill refresh
<RevNeptho> pdave: Nah, thats where the missing phone connector thing is.
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<pdave> hmm... first release of Dave's Q2 wrapper should be fun.
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<rtf> reverse-engineered tcl.c source, painstakingly verified to produce results exactly equivalent to the distributed tcl.o, http://www.cqc.com/~pacman/bx/bxtcl.html
<Hank/#unix> I need help getting remote password chaning working in samba.  Anyone got this working on their system?
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<tcsetattr/#unix> uh
<tcsetattr/#unix> it's like, dead quiet in #bitchx
<HardSpace> hrm
<tcsetattr/#unix> I never would have expected that.
<mouse/#unix> anyone go to your site?
<Breeze> hrm?
<Kaneda> .
<shade> ..[argon/cdcc - 1 pack offered (61.33kb)]..
<shade>  % #1  ( 72 gets - 61.33kb ) argon/1g release!
<shade>      -> bitchx-74p2 script by shade & psykotyk.
<shade> ..[4.28mb sent, maxspeed 61.33kb/s, 5/5 slots open]..
<pdave/#unix> kill budtoker!
<-[shade]-> cdcc send #1
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<tcsetattr/#unix> wow
<Intrud0r> humm.. let me refrase... does anyone know of a good IRC GUI client for X Windows =)
<Intrud0r> heh
-> <RevNeptho> <snicker>
<tcsetattr/#unix> I thought #bitchx would be one of those scrolling-faster-than-you-can-read-it channels
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<madbombah> burp
<mouse> ugh
<RevNeptho> b33r
<mouse> ok so that didn't work out too well
<tcsetattr> heh
<tcsetattr> oh well
<mouse> maybe the regular's are asleep?
<RevNeptho> pacman made a web page
* madbombah drinking rootb33r
<RevNeptho> ir0ny
<RevNeptho> he made a web page to dethrone bitchx
<mouse> ugh if you dont cut it out with the b33r.....
<tcsetattr> it had to be a web page, or it wouldn't be interesting to the warez monkeys
<RevNeptho> and spent two weeks reverse engineering it
<tcsetattr> it's not to "dethrone" bitchx
<RevNeptho> which means he spent 2 weeks to prove something he hates is broken, which is already common knowledge
<RevNeptho> ad to make a web page to describe it on top of that...
<RevNeptho> heh
<tcsetattr> heh. I got banned :)
<RevNeptho> he doesnt realize he sold his soul
<tcsetattr> that By-Tor d00d got the webpage
<tcsetattr> then he banned me :)
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<RevNeptho> hah
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<Mr_You> re
<tcsetattr> I annoyed someone! mission accomplished!
<Mr_You> microwavable glazed donuts are the bomb.
<tcsetattr> I don't feel like I got the word out to the target audience though.
<RevNeptho> so announce on #linux or something
<RevNeptho> :P
<tcsetattr> hey... good idea
<mouse> YA
<mouse> or #windows95
<RevNeptho> Heh
<mouse> or #teen
<mouse> whatever
<RevNeptho> I dont think #win95 has support for TCL
<RevNeptho> jsut call it a hunch
<RevNeptho> :P
<mouse> i dunno
<mouse> you can make it up
<Mr_You> VCC.. hehe
<Mr_You> get that cool knife!
<RevNeptho> heh
<tcsetattr> hey
<tcsetattr> now some more people are getting the page
<RevNeptho> comp.announce.linux
* RevNeptho looks at pacman's tcl.c
<mouse> where did joo announce it?
* Mr_You gets to see Aerosmith tommorow night in a box seat fo free!  ;-)  hehehe
IRC log ended Fri Jan 30 23:47