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Originally Posted: Thu, 11 Oct 11:29 MDT 

RE: 40's and dating

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Date: 2007-10-11, 11:29AM MDT


I am a man in my 40s and dating. I was married and against my wishes the 
marriage ended. I loved my wife deeply, she decided she no longer 
loved me and she wasn't "happy". So, now I date. I didn't ask to be in 
my 40s and single, but reality being what it is I live with it. 

I have no plans to ever get married again. I might have a steady 
girlfriend if the occasion arises, but she'd have to be pretty damn 
spectacular for me to make that leap. I have had all my children, 
I am financially secure and have a plan for myself that is better 
done without a typical American woman's bullshit to goof it up. 
I don't hate women at all by the way, I just know what is worth my 
time and what isn't. 

I date for the occasional bit of company and to occasionally have sex, 
that's about it. I don't need a woman in my life full time. 
I can cook and clean, etc, etc. If I wanted full time companionship, 
I'd get a dog. Dog's are much easier to deal with than women at this 
point in my life. Call me shallow, etc etc whatever, that's fine with me.
I know me a helluva lot better than anyone else does. 

I do have some rules for dating. Since I am not a horny, partying twenty
something or a desparate to have kids thirty something these rules work 
for me. I think everyone ought to come up with what works for them, 
keeping the reality of their particular situation in mind. 

My personal rules: 

1. I never seriously date a woman who terminated her last relationship 
because she wasn't "happy". Happiness is an emotional response to 
external stimuli. To break the vow of "til' death do us part" over an 
emotional state that may or may not be another person's fault, 
is shallow and shows a lack of emotional maturity. It tells me that 
woman is too self absorbed to be a reliable partner in the future. 

2. I don't date fat women. Sorry, all you "BBWs"; get a grip on reality. 
If you are walking around looking like you have a beer keg stuffed in 
your pants, you don't give a shit about yourself, so I really don't 
expect you to give a shit about me in the long run. Don't give me that 
crap about how happy you are with yourself, you're not and we both know 
it. If you and I had fallen in love twenty years ago, gotten married 
and had a family and you had put on the weight, I would still be with 
you, but we didn't and so I see no need to accommodate your lack of 
character and discipline. 

3. I won't seriously consider dating a woman who has a lot of hangups 
about sex. Since I have had all my children, since I can cook and clean 
and make a damn good living for myself and my children, you bring 
nothing to the table I need in the traditional sense. Hell, most women 
can't or won't cook a decent meal anymore and are as a general rule 
clueless in regard to the domestic arts. If you have a lot of hangups 
about sex before we are monogamous, I pretty much see the writing on 
the wall after we have been together for a while. You might not like it, 
but sex is important to men, yes actually, it IS mostly about sex. 
Now that we are all well educated as to the dangers of unprotected sex, 
STDs and birth control, I don't see the problem. Your pussy is not the 
only one in the universe and it isn't plated with gold. If you won't 
have sex with a man, one of your slutty sisters around the corner will. 

4. Feminists. I don't date women who are avowed feminists with a 
"you go girl" mentality. Sorry, but your little movement fucked things 
up in a major way. I think women ought to vote, receive equal pay for 
equal work etc. etc. I do have enough sense to recognize that whether 
by design or chance, men and women are different and since I think that 
form follows function there is a reason for our differences. I don't 
want to be around a woman who wants to prove to me she is as good as I 
am at "man" stuff. It is annoying. It makes you look stupid and insecure. 

5. "Independent" women. I never date a woman who feels the need to tout 
her own independence. First, independent entities by definition do not 
want or need to be in any type of union with another entity. When the 
United States declared independence from Great Britain, we dissolved 
the ties that had connected us to the British. I myself am independent 
and feel no need to tell everyone about it. It is called being an adult. 
Being able to take care of yourself doesn't make you special, it makes 
you "grown folks". Second, if you are that independent, why are you 
looking for a relationship in the first place? Independence is the 
opposite of dependence and being able to depend on others is why we get 
into relationships of any kind in the first place. 

6. Women who spend every weekend perched on a barstool. I don't date 
these over the hill party girls because as an adult male, I know why men 
go to bars and clubs and as a mature adult woman you ought to as well. 
If you do know and still sit there every weekend you are trying to be 
something you aren't (young, unless you are a drunk) and I have no 
desire to be with a woman who lives in a fantasy world. If you haven't 
figured out why men go to bars and clubs and you are sitting there hoping
to meet prince charming, you are clueless and I like to think the women 
I date have a modicum of intelligence. 

7. I don't date women who have their children full time. Might come 
across as a shitty attitude to have, but I see no need to be a full time 
father to someone else's children and a part time father to my own. 
This is a personal preference I developed after having discussions with 
my own children. Mine have been through enough already, I'm the Dad and 
feel I am doing what is best for my children, they were here first. 

8. Anyone who is fanatical about much of anything. If you are religious 
fanatic, I too believe in God. I have a degree in Theology as a matter of
fact, but as far as I can tell, God didn't assign any woman at anytime to
be my moral gatekeeper. He did tell you to be "keepers at home", if you 
are so caught up in church work that you are making your family the 
second priority in your life you aren't following your own rule book. 
I digress, fanaticism of any kind is a psychological addiction and I 
prefer to spend my time with people who lead a well balanced life. 
Addiction of any kind is a turn off. 

9. Overly materialistic. My preference. I grew up dirt poor and have 
by hard work gotten myself to a pretty good spot in life. If you have a 
desire and need to get the latest and greatest and keep up with the 
Jones family, you aren't for me. I see no need to potentially work 
myself into an early grave to keep you in shiny trinkets and new cars. 
I am pretty content with a pot of beans and a nice clean, comfortable 
house in a decent neighborhood and a vehicle that works and is safe. 
If $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is what motivates you, I am not mad at you 
or knocking you for it, I am personally not interested. No, I am 
not "poor", it is about priorities. 


There ya go. Don't know why I posted this. Saw the comments about people 
in their 40s dating and this is what came to mind. I have no real 
interest in getting into another permanent relationship. I am content 
to spend the rest of my life single, but that works for me. 


For those disparaging the over 40 dating crowd, even 40 somethings 
get lonely at times, some more than others. Some of those people are 
there through no fault of their own. they were and are good men and 
women who had an ex get middle aged crazy and left a good man or woman 
behind to chase after something they thought they were missing. 
Maybe the other person was an abusive asshole or addict and the one 
who is single had to leave for any number of reasons. 
All sorts of reasons people over 40 are single. Keep breathing and you 
might find yourself there some day. 


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